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グランツーリスモ 5

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Polyphony Digital

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11/25/10 Sony Computer Entertainment
11/24/10 Sony Computer Entertainment

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DonFerrari posted 07/01/2012, 10:25
@atma998: So in September it would make sense to have 1,3M of inventorie but now 170k is the stock and is also normal??? Please what is normal for you? To change the line of thinking from one post to another even if they are only a few minutes apart?
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atma998 posted 07/01/2012, 09:49
@obamanobama Can you please provide links of your so-called ''facts''?
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osamanobama posted 07/01/2012, 07:02
so a game that sells 60k a week during the Christmas season and 25k during the rest of the year will have hundreds of thousands of copies sitting on shelves, and stores will just accept this? taking up precious space on shelves and inventory. and Sony will just ship 6 months of supply because the can, with no need to make another shipment? its brand new games, that sell 100k copies per week that have hundreds of thousands on shelves not games that sell a 1/3 of that. im telling you for a fact that Sony did not ship 6 months worth of Gt5. im telling you for a FACT that it has sold that shipment, its been more than 3 months. im telling you for a fact that Sony has made another shipment since (one stores would not accept if there were still 100's of thousands of copies on shelves.
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atma998 posted 07/01/2012, 04:49
@dsage01 Please stop making a fool of yourselves. 7.3M-7.13M = 170k. Sony might have shipped some more games since September but nowhere near a million that's for sure. As for the Europe numbers, this is very obvious VGC and PD do not track Europe the same way. As far as global sales goes VGC seems right on the spot... So call me a hater as long as you want, now you're just proving us that you are either totally blind or just unable to understand basic logic. It must be hard to be such a supporter...
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dsage01 posted 07/01/2012, 01:01
It's obvious that this is horribly undertracked in Europe.
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dsage01 posted 07/01/2012, 01:00
@atma998 1.2 million on shelves according to 3 month old data! Either you really hate this game or you love to hate on the PS3 and PS3 games (Which I have seen you do earlier). Really there is no use arguing with you. We're only going to waste our time.
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Colocho posted 07/01/2012, 12:29
How is this game tracking compared to GT4?
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atma998 posted 06/01/2012, 11:49
@osamanobama: As I replied to you earlier, games like GT5 have indeed several hundreds of thousand copies sitting on shelves as they are available in larger quantity and in much more locations too. We can see huge discrepencies between shipped and sale figures for all major releases of the big three and other big third party titles as well. You can easily find out by yourself in comparing numbers reported by these companies with actual VGC numbers. But maybe it's easier for you to just being in a denial mode.
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osamanobama posted 06/01/2012, 10:33
recent shipped numbers? you mean numbers that are over 3 months old, of which according to this site they still havent sold, nor will they until March.... 6 months after the shipment. it looks spot on to you because you are delusional. why would they ship enough copies of GT5 to last them 6 months without the need to make even 1 more shipment. Why would stores want hundreds of thousands of copies of GT5 on their shelves when it will is selling less than 60k per week, and soon less than 40k. know with GT5 XL coming out, they will have like what 500k+ sitting on shelves? logic is a good thing, use it.
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John_Doe posted 05/01/2012, 04:19
RECENT shipped numbers??
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Santacruz posted 04/01/2012, 10:27
@kowenicki 1m in europe on shelves ur right!
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dsage01 posted 03/01/2012, 03:18
It shipped 4.5 million in Europe and sold less than 3.4 million? And its still in the top 40 in most/some European charts. It's almost certainly undertracked in Europe.
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dsage01 posted 03/01/2012, 03:15
Possible undertracked in Europe and overtracked in the "others cataogry. I doubt it sold over 1.4 million over there.
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UnknownFact posted 31/12/2011, 09:01
t*
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UnknownFact posted 31/12/2011, 09:00
My brother just bough it.
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dsage01 posted 31/12/2011, 05:23
7.15 million by the end of this year.
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ethomaz posted 31/12/2011, 03:27
65,629 this week.
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osamanobama posted 31/12/2011, 12:41
undertracked by around 250k
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DonFerrari posted 31/12/2011, 12:15
Byt the way it seems it sould 70k this week, I hoped for more this month to reach at least 7,25M as a middle point of my prevision back in january (between 7~7,5M) but it's okay it'll keep seeling... if after New Year it can keep more than 10k weekly then it sure is HUGE LEGS
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DonFerrari posted 31/12/2011, 12:13
@atma998: Sure they will. And I still think it's possible (maybe need some bundling), but to be assured it is impossible to reach 10M I can't agree... and as ethomaz said first the PD data that is updated refers to a previous period (September I think is what he said).
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atma998 posted 30/12/2011, 09:59
@DonFerrari Don't worry VGC will update if there is indeed overtracking/undertracking as they did in the past. As of now PD published their numbers two weeks ago and there is still no update so maybe they were just spot on, don't you think? As for the 10M, well I honestly don't have anything more to say as the weekly numbers are speaking for themselves...won't reach it for sure without any big bundle but be free to think it will reach 10 or even 15 million like some other user here, I don't really care.
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DonFerrari posted 30/12/2011, 11:33
1 year after release do you think 6 months of supply is common? So ok more power to you... because as it seems here you are the one that know all, because everybody else have another opinion... But I guess it's more your hope that GT5 never sells 10M than the reality... and you mix games that sell 5M, 10M and 25M as the same range of shelve stock after one year??? I can't see a game selling 20k and another selling 100k needing the same stock, seriously... and I don't know how to track, but everytime community complained about undertracking and people like you said it was because of stock (PS3 having 2M and Xbox 360 having 200k were normal for those guys) after 1 or 2 months VGC corrects the sales closer to reality, but be blind if you want.
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atma998 posted 28/12/2011, 09:50
@DonFerrari: Read again, it's the same thing for any other big titles, but I guess you know more than VGC how to track game sales...so nevermind.
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DonFerrari posted 28/12/2011, 10:33
@atma998: If GT5 had 1M in inventaries along the world during february to july I could understand because they could be left overs from holiday season / debut... but to have this many in shelves when the game sells around 20k a week, more than 6 months of sales sitting on shelves doesn't see that accurate... but whatever any spin you can give to say GT5 numbers is bad or to prove it's IMPOSSIBLE for it to hit 10M without BIG BUNDLING you do... so nevermind.
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atma998 posted 26/12/2011, 04:20
@osamanobama Absolutely and it's the same pattern for every other games. Every other big games (Halo, Mario, Skyrim, CoD, Pokemon, WSR, etc.) have several hundreds of thousand copies sitting on shelves as they are available in larger quantity and in much more locations too. Unfortunately, no knowledgeable VGC user on this page will tell you this truth even if they know that because of some poor and blinded fanboyism.
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ethomaz posted 26/12/2011, 03:52
@atma998. End of September. 7.3 million shipped - 6.6 million sold (the was adjusted UP again) = .700k on shelves... now it's fine (after adjustments).
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osamanobama posted 26/12/2011, 06:07
@atm so you are saying that they shipped 7.3 million as of 3 months ago, and still havent sold though that shipment, and at the pace its going now it wont sell all of that shipment until past march of next year. so you are saying they have shipped enough supply to last them 6 months, and that this site is OVER-tracking this game? that is just nuts. that means they woud have absolutely no need to ship even 1 more copy of GT5 until March 2012. and stores will have just hundreds of thousands of copies of GT5 sitting on the store shelves for 6 months, and not recieve another shipment. its very clear that this game has sold more than 7.3 million. and when this site will show thats this games sales to be around 7.1 million by the end of the year, and the games september shipments to be 7.3 million, and then PD will show its December shipments t be over 7.6 million, what will you say? will it still be over tracked?
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atma998 posted 23/12/2011, 10:06
@Ethomaz: Again, 7.3M - 6.96M = 340k copies on shelves, plus what have been shipped since September. No one is talking about 1.4 million except yourself. On another note, the game weekly sales went down to 60k this week but still allowed the game to reach 7 million! Now 8 million will be a looooooong road.
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Ham_Burgular posted 23/12/2011, 03:26
Not bad.
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thehusbo posted 23/12/2011, 03:23
7million :) well deserved!
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ethomaz posted 23/12/2011, 03:04
1.4 million on shelves is ok just for launched titles.
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jester2358 posted 22/12/2011, 11:37
lol
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atma998 posted 22/12/2011, 10:14
@Jester Did I say ''few'' hundred thousands? No, I said ''several'' hundred thousand, which could imply 1 million and more. Please learn to read.
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jester2358 posted 22/12/2011, 06:16
which is it atma? do big games like gt5 have more than a million on shelves like you stated a few posts down or do they only have a few hundred thousand as your claiming now?
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atma998 posted 21/12/2011, 09:48
Well even 1 year old big titles have several hundred thousands units on shelves. This is just common knowledge.
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jester2358 posted 21/12/2011, 05:38
@atma is makes sense for skyrim to have millions on shelves considering its selling 900k+ a week. GT5...is not so those stocking numbers aren't needed.
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dsage01 posted 21/12/2011, 01:22
In Asia and "Global it looks overtracked (by 500k at least) But in Europe it looks undertracked by at least 600-650k based on PD's shipment info) I doubt retaliers would shipt in so many copies it even it even selling that well. Another factor to conisder is PD doesn't include, South, America, Austraila an Africa so maybe push the sales up 200k. Mind you theses are not actual sales I'm giving info of just estimates according to my calculations. We will just have to wait for the next PD shipment numbers to come out.
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dsage01 posted 21/12/2011, 01:11
Sorry change that to 100-150k.
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dsage01 posted 21/12/2011, 01:10
Probably undertracked by 300k - 400k ust an estimate though. Most likely in Europe
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ethomaz posted 20/12/2011, 10:45
I have no idea... launch titles have more in channel than old titles... GT5 is a old title with new versions coming (Spec II, Platinum)... so the units in shelves is lesser than new lunched titles... and for other big games I don't know because just PD show the shipped figures, no other company do the same thing.
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atma998 posted 20/12/2011, 10:02
@Ethomaz Yes this is my argument to explain the discrepancy between both Europe numbers as this is the one making sense. But I don't expect someone like you or jester to understand this as you knopw that the game would be undertracked even before PD numbers came out. Oh and you did not answer my question... how many copies do you think other big first party or any other major titles are sitting on shelves? I give you a clue: Skyrim has shipped 10 million unit and sold less than 7 million so far...
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jester2358 posted 20/12/2011, 09:01
obviously not all the million plus are sold , but I'd say we are at least a few hundred thousand short here if not more. but alas we have to wait for the next PD shipment info to once again silence the haters and more importantly cure my curiosity.
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jester2358 posted 20/12/2011, 08:49
ah yes thank you ethomaz for the correction, forgot the shipment was from september. I would guess that since the americas and japan seem to have sold through on their shipments since then that europe would be close to doing the same.
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ethomaz posted 20/12/2011, 04:06
Just to you know... VGC adjusted every week of GT5 for accuracy and still seems under.
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ethomaz posted 20/12/2011, 04:05
@atma998 that's your argument for 1.4 million on shelves just in Europe???
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ethomaz posted 20/12/2011, 04:03
@jester2358 for end of september VGC had GT5 at 3,084,509 in Europe (http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40818/Europe/)... so 1.4 million on shelves... undertracked.
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postofficebuddy posted 20/12/2011, 01:09
6.96 is what we have it at now. The PD numbers are as of September. We had it at about 6.5 million back then. And a lot more have been shipped out since then anyway because September was before the launch of the GT5/Uncharted 2 bundle in Europe.
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atma998 posted 20/12/2011, 12:22
VGC Europe doesnt count as many countries as PD Europe obviously.
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jester2358 posted 19/12/2011, 11:30
its actually 4.5M-3.3M = more than a million on shelves in europe, according to PDs numbers.
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atma998 posted 19/12/2011, 10:09
@Ethomaz, 7.3M - 6.96M = 340k copies on shelves, plus what have been shipped since September. Tracking seems just fine to me. But I won't be surprised if overtracked as a game like GT5 can easily have 1 million copies on shelves. How many copies do you think other big first party games (Halo, Mario, etc.) are sitting on shelves?
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ethomaz posted 19/12/2011, 01:45
@atma998 Do you thing there are more than 1 million on shelves just in Europe??? That's the diff between VGC and PD... so undertracked in Europe is my bet.
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sub-zero-TM posted 18/12/2011, 01:56
Awesome numbers! 9-10m lifetime! best selling racing game of this gen?
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DonFerrari posted 18/12/2011, 01:05
Don't forget that if you sum Prologue to GT5 5,3+7,3 in PD site you will have a total of 12,6... So it's possible for GT5 to become the best selling of them all.
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atma998 posted 17/12/2011, 07:33
@CGI Happy to see that you have changed your position and are now agreeing with me: GT5 won't reach 10M unless heavily bundled. Case closed.
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Fame_Mcswagg posted 17/12/2011, 07:03
gtplanet has this game selling 7.3 million at this point
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postofficebuddy posted 17/12/2011, 04:19
@CGI This will easily sell more than a million in 2012. Uncharted 2 will sell over a million in it's second full year and GT5 not only has better legs but a much higher overall sales baseline. And as you pointed out before Polyphony's shipments point to this being undertracked anyway, particularly in Europe.
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atma998 posted 17/12/2011, 03:17
@CGI Ok let's do that. But just out of curiosity... how much do you think it will sell in 2012?
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atma998 posted 17/12/2011, 01:13
@CGI Ok so because ioi said (probably a year ago, without all the data and new info since then) it will reach 10 million, then we must just assume the game will indeed reach 10 million? Come on, that's ridiculous and you know it. Talking about data to back up your point, you did not bring any for claiming the game is undertracked. Even with my scenario of GT5 selling a couple of 100k/week during the holidays and reaching 7.5M on year's end, I did not see GT5 reaching 10M. With these sales it's now becoming impossible, unless Sony decide to bundle every PS3 with GT5 in the future...
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atma998 posted 17/12/2011, 02:15
@CGI Why would the game be undertracked? A game like GT5 could very well have several hundred thounsand copies sitting on shelves at the moment. At this point it sounds like wishful thinking to me, just as the 10 million.
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Heavenly_King posted 17/12/2011, 01:50
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GT!!!
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Alby_da_Wolf posted 17/12/2011, 12:15
PD numbers are shipped, but the last published a few hours ago are as of September 2011, so an adjustment up on VGC isn't unlikely.
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enrageorange posted 16/12/2011, 11:56
PD numbers are and have always been shipped... Hence why so far this year it only shipped 600k, but obviously sold a lot more.
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atma998 posted 16/12/2011, 10:55
@VGKing, PD numbers are shipped. Anyway it seems PD has finally updated their numbers and it fits with VGC, might even be a bit overtracked here...*run for his life*
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atma998 posted 16/12/2011, 10:55
@VGKing, PD numbers are shipped. Anyway it seems PD has finally updated their numbers and it fits with VGC, might even be a bit overtracked here...*run for his life*
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VGKing posted 16/12/2011, 10:30
PD says 7.3m sold.
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atma998 posted 16/12/2011, 10:24
@thehusbo: Until Mario Kart 7 surpass it :)
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atma998 posted 16/12/2011, 10:21
No, even with the bundles the game is still not in the Europe top 40.
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shanbcn posted 16/12/2011, 10:07
It should ship close to 9m by end of 2012.
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VXIII posted 16/12/2011, 04:56
7,3M shiped as of Sep 2011, nice ^^
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ethomaz posted 16/12/2011, 04:38
70,472 this week... more three weeks... hummmm... 7.2 million by the end of the year..
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DonFerrari posted 16/12/2011, 04:11
How close it will get to 7,5M with 3 weeks of sale??? My prediction was between 7~7,5M
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thehusbo posted 16/12/2011, 03:10
Has now passed Mario kart double dash and is now the 9th best racing game of all time :) 7 mill next week!
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The_Joker_Product posted 16/12/2011, 10:02
7 mil next week probably.
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Jansky8 posted 16/12/2011, 09:11
Great game, love it :) Ethomaz, just out of curiosity, how was Gran Turismo 4 doing at that time in its lifecycle?
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EmpireNO posted 14/12/2011, 05:48
I love GT5. Been playing it since release and I still play it almost on a daily basis. Awesomeness.
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atma998 posted 14/12/2011, 03:45
My prediction can be found easily on this page...
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ethomaz posted 14/12/2011, 01:28
The fact: GT5 is tracking better than GT4.
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ethomaz posted 14/12/2011, 01:28
Prediction is just a prediction @atma998... anyway how much is your prediction for GT5???
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atma998 posted 13/12/2011, 10:14
And I suppose you had a good reason to explain the huge discrepancy between your 1st week prediction and what it sold?
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atma998 posted 13/12/2011, 10:09
@Ethomaz You made this prediction 2-3 weeks before the game's launch: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3760776 and you never spoke about heavy bundling...
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ethomaz posted 13/12/2011, 04:22
For 31th December 2011... in January I guess.
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ethomaz posted 13/12/2011, 04:22
For 31th December 2011... in January I guess.
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Mordred11 posted 13/12/2011, 02:31
when are PD's numbers coming out?
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ethomaz posted 13/12/2011, 02:05
GT5 15k just in UK.. .seems like over 50k this week (TOP40 baby).
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ethomaz posted 13/12/2011, 01:34
Heavy bundled like Forza 3 or GT3 it can do that (15m)... if not it will be the second best selling GT ever (over GT4).
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ethomaz posted 13/12/2011, 01:34
This week numbers... not last week.
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atma998 posted 12/12/2011, 10:27
@ethomazNo, not in the Europe top 40 this week, #40 is Wii Fit Plus and it sold 46k for that territory alone, sorry. And you did not answer my question about your 15M LTD prediction lol.
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ethomaz posted 12/12/2011, 03:27
@atma998 due the bundle it appeared in TOP40 Europe this week... just if you not know GT5 is tracking ahead GT4 even after Holidays... EPIC.
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Tridrakious posted 11/12/2011, 11:19
Sony's best performing title of the PS3 generation and continues to go up the chart. I will say though I'm getting less and less optimistic on GT5 hitting 10 million though.
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Sarah90 posted 11/12/2011, 07:07
def. my favorite racing game. i love it!!!! :)
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Alby_da_Wolf posted 10/12/2011, 07:10
Yes, if it gets near 10M, Sony will bundle it and push the sales of budget editions enough to reach it. But if it sells more and it gets near GT4, GT4 and GT1 are so close that Sony will bundle it ad push all its other sales enough to outsell both.
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dsage01 posted 10/12/2011, 03:12
Should get to 10 million LT at this rate.
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atma998 posted 09/12/2011, 10:22
@Ethomaz Last week it sold 30k and this week 40k...wow what incredible numbers!! I wonder how many 40k weeks the game will need to reach your 15 million LTD prediction? Even bundled, the game is not in the top 40 nor in the Europe top 40 anymore unlike some other older games. Sorry for having bursted your bubble again. On a more positive note, the game is on its way to reach 7 million before year's end! Still a good milestone for any game...
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DEF posted 09/12/2011, 10:18
7 million by the end of the year.)
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osamanobama posted 09/12/2011, 09:01
please PD update the numbers.
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Train wreck posted 09/12/2011, 08:41
If you include the prologue this game is well over 11 million.
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ethomaz posted 09/12/2011, 12:08
41,020 this week... I don't get the "still selling less than 30k/week" LOL
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DonFerrari posted 09/12/2011, 11:30
@The_Joker_Product and what does that matter?
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The_Joker_Product posted 09/12/2011, 10:38
MW3 passed it in only 1 month to.
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VXIII posted 08/12/2011, 04:01
Eh .... the ever lasting argument :p
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atma998 posted 08/12/2011, 01:50
@CGI GT5 is currently bundled in some european countries just to let you know.
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ethomaz posted 08/12/2011, 01:20
GT4 sold less near 30k in holidays too... GT5 is tracking better than GT4 after adjustments.
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atma998 posted 07/12/2011, 10:07
@CGI You will have to define what exactly ''stops selling'' means. Is 5k or 10k/week for the upcoming years can be considered as ''stops selling''? 10M cannot be reached magically. And by the way it's performing now, we can easily assume the game will die way sooner than 10M. I won't repeat what I already said about GT4 frame time comparison for obvious reasons.
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atma998 posted 07/12/2011, 03:51
Again do the maths, if it doesnt sell substantial numbers during the holidays and it sells 10-15k/week during the rest of the year, 10 million is impossible to reach!
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ethomaz posted 07/12/2011, 12:14
@atma998... less? It's more than 30k per week now.
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atma998 posted 06/12/2011, 10:26
Still selling less than 30k/week? Seems like GT5 sales won't explode during the holiday period as some people predicted here...It will surely rise up a bit in the upcoming weeks but I don't see this game selling 100k+/week anymore.
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LupinIII posted 06/12/2011, 04:18
Possibly though its sales still wont be as impressive as Black Ops.
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kivi95 posted 05/12/2011, 10:01
I think thid msy have a change to be the best selling ps3 game ever!!!(In Europe)
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John_Doe posted 05/12/2011, 05:30
Where the hell is the chart????
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DonFerrari posted 05/12/2011, 05:13
Just 140k more to take down position 9
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ethomaz posted 03/12/2011, 02:35
Ajusted up 84,935 until Week 49... the current week is 54.
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DonFerrari posted 02/12/2011, 10:25
Every change made at VG have made people more confused and displeased by what we see... and horay... just another 680k in the next 5 or 6 weeks sales to reach my prediction... Let's see the Holidays kick in.
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dsage01 posted 01/12/2011, 09:08
I'm really starting to hate this format. But hopefully Asia, Canada and others will come around soon.
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alonzodono posted 01/12/2011, 07:05
Ah ok ... and also , where is the " Yearly Charts " i do not see
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VXIII posted 01/12/2011, 01:06
@alonzodono 5.4M is the total numbers of USA, Europe and Japan , 6.82 is WW total
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alonzodono posted 30/11/2011, 05:00
Lifetime Totals: "5,410,004" WTF ? Is 6.82 not 5.4 :(
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MrMofongo624 posted 25/11/2011, 11:13
sick assssss game!!!!!!!!!!
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ethomaz posted 25/11/2011, 10:05
Happy 1st Anniversary!!!
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postofficebuddy posted 20/11/2011, 01:09
@Kai Master I was referring to the holiday GT5+Uncharted 2 bundle Flippozzo mentioned below.
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Kai Master posted 19/11/2011, 11:32
"new bundle in Europe" : I bought PS3+GT5 pack in February, that's not "new" !
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Kai Master posted 19/11/2011, 11:31
Could sell between 9 and 11.5M in the end.
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postofficebuddy posted 19/11/2011, 09:17
Sales decrease this week? Seems rather odd with the new bundle in Europe..
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shanbcn posted 19/11/2011, 06:35
It seem PD have forgotten to update the numbers, should be close to 8m shipped by December 2011.
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atma998 posted 19/11/2011, 04:40
Sales goes down?
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dsage01 posted 19/11/2011, 04:07
Should hit 7 million by the end of the year
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Flippozzo posted 18/11/2011, 07:00
In Italy (presume in Europa) there is a bundle with PS3 320 giga + Uncharted 2 + GT5 at 299€
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DonFerrari posted 18/11/2011, 01:32
And it just beat the 6,666,666 mark
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Michael-5 posted 18/11/2011, 11:23
Still the game is a lot more frontloaded then older GT's. People were waiting for this game for a long time and it shows. Can't remember by original estimate for this game, but even 9 million lifetime looks to be difficult, it's a shame because this is basically the best PS3 game out there (after Uncharted), and the racing franchise in general needs this game to do well. I mean look at what's happened to NFS, a good GT is always appreciated.
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ethomaz posted 17/11/2011, 11:21
926k i nthe last 40 weeks.
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The_Joker_Product posted 17/11/2011, 05:28
Very frontloaded game, hasnt even sold 1 million in the last 40 weeks.
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atma998 posted 16/11/2011, 01:47
@coolbeans Interesting indeed. It seems the family/friendly games are the exceptions. I also find out that GT5 has already been bundled in Europe (Collector's edition) and Japan (titanium blue PS3). As for this holiday, if ever Sony planned to release a bundle, it would have been already announced. Maybe next year, who knows?
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postofficebuddy posted 14/11/2011, 04:24
Sold 36k this week. Even if you completely ignore the holiday boost it would fall just a smidge short of 7 million by the end of the year just by maintaining this average. 8 million is still possible by the end of the year. Sony just need to announce a holiday bundle.
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Serious_frusting posted 12/11/2011, 06:17
Just to say, GT5 isnt even a year old yet >_>
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Donutsticks posted 12/11/2011, 04:11
@atma998 and CGI. Both of you guys have shared your opinions concerning gt5 and you both know how the other person feels. I don't think your debate is about whether gt5 will get 10 million anymore. Its about who's going to get the last word in. Please let this be the end of your debate.
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homer posted 12/11/2011, 03:51
MK Wii was bundled roughly 2 years(if not more) after its release.
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atma998 posted 11/11/2011, 10:47
I didnt say it was impossible for GT5 to reach 10M, just that it was impossible to reach that number without bundles, something that even CGI agreed on. In other words, it all depends on bundles. But now I just have one question and I'm not sure about the answer, that's why I'm asking you guys. Sony did not announce any bundle in the near future. Is it possible to bundle a two years old or more game with a console? I mean is there any example of one of the big three bundling a game launched 2 years ago with their console? I'm wondering because I think the more we advance in GT5 life cycle, the less there is a possibility of bundles.
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DonFerrari posted 11/11/2011, 02:28
@ CGI and atma998 And to end discussion, as GT5 is in its 50th week, almost one year down the road I'm most certain GT 4 already had its holiday sales by this time... so if GT5 is still outselling GT4 on a weekly basis (legs account) and is ahead in the same timeframe (frontload portion)... how came the discussion that it's IMPOSSIBLE to GT5 to reach 10M? You can say it's difficult, or that a bundle or greatest hits may help it, but you can't keep saying that people that think it are completly wrong just because they disagree with you. Or some people will wait to see if after GT4 second holiday GT5 is still ahead to accept the possibility? Because CGI didn't said it is certain that GT5 will cross 10M, but that its very possible. And to end the argument, if in January through March (dead season) GT5 still is weekly above GT4 its better to stop denying because after 2 holidays, V2, price cut it is just legs.
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atma998 posted 11/11/2011, 12:26
Oh and no, 10M is not unreasonable if heavily bundled but in such a case wouldnt be more logical to compare it with another heavily bundled GT title like GT3? Yeah I know, it could makes GT5 look bad.
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atma998 posted 11/11/2011, 12:20
You see? That's why we cannot have a serious discussion. You have completely ignored most of my points instead of trying to understand them while throwing again your ''time frame'' comparison with GT4 wich doesnt make any sense and you know why as previously discussed. You conclude saying there is nothing suggesting GT5 can't reach 10M. Wow! What a solid argument. Well at least I tried...
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atma998 posted 10/11/2011, 11:31
@CGI Fact: you did not comment the game sales during the low season while you're now commenting each week (or day). Fact: To reach 10M before the end of 2013, the game will need to sell an average of 30k/week during the next 25 months or so. Fact: The first year of a frontloaded game is always the best selling period of its life cycle. Fact: GT5 sold about 30k/week during 2011 and this number will obviously decrease during the upcoming years if we follow sales trends of a video game like GT5. Now, how can it possibly reach 10M? Heavy bundles? Yeah maybe, that's hypothetical at that point, but you have now to admit it is the only way it can reach that mark and in such a case it doesnt show it perfomed better than the previous tiltes.
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atma998 posted 10/11/2011, 10:54
As for the solid argument, I provided you with tons of them but each time, rather than trying to understand them, you just instantly deny or ignore them. As goes the ''off-topic/inflammatory nonsense'', I did not get banned from what I know, so again please just take a step back.
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atma998 posted 10/11/2011, 10:46
My Agenda? What are you thinking lol? Do you believe I'm working 24/7 on a conspiracy against GT5 sales? Dude, maybe you should take a step back because you seem to be way too much into it. We're just talking about sales of a video game. You're saying it will easily reach the 10M mark while I'm saying it won't. Week after week you feel the need to justify the game's performance and I just put all this into context, something that obviously you don't like. Don't forget GT5 is not a religion but just a video game, so relax!
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atma998 posted 10/11/2011, 10:03
Funny how you had to wait until this time of the year to cheer about the ''legs'' but did not say anything while the game sold below 10k/week during the summer. Quite mysterious isnt it?
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atma998 posted 09/11/2011, 10:21
And just like any other video games, the sales are increasing during this time of the year. Oh well... but I agree 7 million will be reached soon.
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cars298 posted 09/11/2011, 12:11
Good grafix
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jester2358 posted 08/11/2011, 02:00
go check the date of those shipments bugrimmar it was last year.
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dsage01 posted 07/11/2011, 10:47
the legs are just beast... wonder if Uncharted 3 can have legs like this
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dsage01 posted 07/11/2011, 10:46
umm... that was in december
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bugrimmar posted 07/11/2011, 03:19
according to polyphony's website, they've shipped only 6.36 mil....
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Iveyboi posted 04/11/2011, 04:55
Best F'in legs..SEEN
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Kai Master posted 04/11/2011, 04:43
easily beating GT4 in EMEAA, a bit in Americas and underperforming every GT in Japan... It could reach 11M WW and rank 2nd after GT3.
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shanbcn posted 04/11/2011, 04:18
I can just see it selling 150k per week towards the end of the year.
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Mordred11 posted 04/11/2011, 01:19
Woah , it sold pretty damn good this week.
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pslee posted 04/11/2011, 01:03
Soon will be overtaken by mw3. Spa is awesome!!
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DonFerrari posted 04/11/2011, 11:04
If it keep increasing in this rate towards the holiday we will have a very nice 7,5~8M before the end of the year.
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ethomaz posted 04/11/2011, 10:58
Sold just 36,468 this week... so low.
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Mordred11 posted 04/11/2011, 07:34
this game wall must be the most commented on vgchartz
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atma998 posted 04/11/2011, 04:14
@CGI I don't get it, you're so convinced the game will reach 10M and you predict the LT sale of the game as 9.7M LT (see your reply to Jansky below). Also you cannot say X franchise sells Y, it's not how it works in the real world. It's way more complicated than this. As for the time frame comparison with GT4, we have already discussed the issue at length.
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atma998 posted 03/11/2011, 10:22
No misunderting here, I'm not saying the game is selling bad by the way, just that it's not selling as good as previous iterations. It won't reach GT4 LT sales and it won't reach GT3 LT sales either, which is the one to be compared to in the first place since a first iteration of an established franchise (not a growing one) on a new console always sells better than the second one. In the end, GT5 is selling good in comparison to the average sales of a video game, but not that good if we compare it to previous iterations, that's all.
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atma998 posted 03/11/2011, 10:13
@CGI: I will say it again: Did you, or anyone else, answer gipsy's question before I did, yes or no? I will suggest that you ignored him because he did not make a cheerleader of himself, but instead asked a pertinent question which could make GT5 sales looks bad once answered.
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Kai Master posted 03/11/2011, 11:11
I bought this game and I must say that I don't understand people saying the gameplay sucks, this game has the most subtile/realistic gamplay I've ever seen ! I think it is technically on par with PGR3 I played 5 years ago on 360, maybe I preferd PGR3, but the gameplay is really fantastic.. AI sucks... I hope it sells more than GT4 (10M)
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atma998 posted 03/11/2011, 02:15
Did anyone answered his question, yes or no? But I guess you will claim the game is selling good in Japan...hardly surprising given the history. p.s. I'm not here to cheer or to put down this game, just speaking the truth, something you obviously don't like!
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atma998 posted 02/11/2011, 10:14
@gipsy_jack: People here are generally too blinded to answer your question so I will: GT5 is already quite dead in this area, no undertracking.
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Carl posted 02/11/2011, 01:56
I saw in the recent EMEAA thread, this is above Gran Turismo 4 in the same time frame. GT4 had just come out of a Holiday season too, with GT5 about to go into this one. GT5 will pull ahead in the next 2 Months... It's gonna be bundled at some point, probably next Year. 10 Million should be guaranteed at this point in time. Now, if only PD would release shipment numbers...
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Jansky8 posted 01/11/2011, 11:23
How come Japan and Americas bought so much GT5 Prologue compared to GT5. And at how much do you guys think GT5 is going to finish at in both regions?
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Jansky8 posted 01/11/2011, 11:22
Lol Michael-5 ;)
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Michael-5 posted 01/11/2011, 10:54
WAIT DAMMIT WRONG WALL!!! man, was wondering why every comment was GT related... have Forza open in another tab, my bad.
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Michael-5 posted 01/11/2011, 10:54
Get....off Sony fans...get, sho. This is Forza's wall, none of this bs here.....get, shoo
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kivi95 posted 01/11/2011, 10:45
GT5 is so huge in Europe!!! Still dissapointing sales in America and Japan compared to the other GT games.
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ethomaz posted 01/11/2011, 08:31
HUUUUUGE!!!
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gipsy_jack posted 01/11/2011, 06:21
is it possible that GT5 is undertrack in Japan....? Because it sold less than 1k per week...strange isn't it
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Genera1MLD posted 01/11/2011, 08:04
lol 10 million by next year, sounds so familure "ps3 will outsell the 360" in 2011 ps3 fanboy were boasting last year" lol still behind by 2.8 million, thing is the ps3 has been swamped by exclusives this year the xmass bundles will focus on ps move games and uncharted 3.
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atma998 posted 31/10/2011, 02:50
@CGI Was your last post supposed to be your last reply? lol
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atma998 posted 30/10/2011, 09:44
@CGI I'm indeed interested in video games sales and this is why I'm an active VGC member. Following your logic, I guess that if you don't like a game you should not comment its sales but unfortunately for you this is not how things work in the real world. Also lol about saying everyone except me knows you prediction like if you're so important. In fact nobody knows and you don't even dare to repeat it cause you know you'll be proved wrong. Anyway thanks for this discussion it shows everyone what kind of person you are and how you are totally got blinded by your ''love'' for a brand.
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atma998 posted 30/10/2011, 05:52
@Donutsticks 10M is just a number, I agree. The thing is that in the past years on VGC there was so many people predicting it will easily reach that number (a lot of them were even claiming it will reach that number in Europe only) and now they are not even able to admit it did not sell as good as they tought. The reality is that if the game eventually sold 10M it will have a hard time to reach that number.
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atma998 posted 30/10/2011, 05:46
@CGI I don't get why you ''don't'' want to bring any numbers. You said the game will reach 10M ''long before 2014'' 1 day ago and now you're saying it will reach it by the mid-late 2013. What a difference! Anyway saying I'm the one who fear is just non sense since I provided clear numbers in my prediction while you didnt. I agree that we can wait and see but it would have been more credible for you to explain to us how it will reach it, my guess is that you're hoping the game will be heavily bundled.
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ethomaz posted 30/10/2011, 06:50
@tontus in Week 48 GT4 sold 3,723,790 (EMEAA) / GT5 sold 4,138,309... there aren't Week 48 data for Americas and Japan.
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Donutsticks posted 29/10/2011, 10:40
@atma: It's to early to tell if gt5 will sale 10 million or not. Why don't you just wait and see like everybody else? Besides whats the big deal if does or does not sale 10 millon? The game is already a huge success!
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atma998 posted 29/10/2011, 05:33
@CGI Look who's talking about people hoping/wanting/dreaming the game will reach 10M without bringing solid figures. Where is your prediction? I gave you mine but yours is still nowhere to be found...And when you talk about ''some bundling'' what exactly do you mean? 500k? 2M? 5M? Well if the game is bundled by millions it doesn prove anything to me...guess what Wii Play sold near 30 million units! The thing with your argument CGI is that you doesn bring any raw numbers like if you fear to be proved wrong.
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DonFerrari posted 29/10/2011, 03:51
@Tontus: You may be right, but it's possible that it hit.
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atma998 posted 29/10/2011, 03:00
@pezus Sure holiday season will increase the average, but how much? It's funny to see that no one claiming it will (without any doubt) reach 10M+ is able to demonstrate how it will with raw numbers predictions.
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tontus posted 29/10/2011, 01:54
When you align the launches for GT4 it's actually tracking ahead of GT5 by about 50k. GT5 could hit 10m but it's not as guaranteed as some think. I don't think it will, it'll sell just a little more than GT2 imo, about 9.5m.
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sabby_e17 posted 29/10/2011, 01:38
So now every car has cockpit view? Then ima hop onto GT5 now after some time. Was very disappointed with GT5 for being a half-finished game when it released.
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jace101 posted 29/10/2011, 08:08
Omg all cars now have in car cam with this new update.Thousands of cars with in car cam not just premium cars.This game keeps getting better and better.I havent even got the DLC I heard its killer!
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kurasakiichimaru posted 29/10/2011, 07:17
Meh. This game is probably undertracked and the game will sell well as price goes down.
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atma998 posted 29/10/2011, 02:55
and just to help you with your predictions if we exclude the launch period (first ten weeks of sales), GT5 sold an average of 22k/week up to this date. This number will obviously decrease in the upcoming years...
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atma998 posted 29/10/2011, 02:55
and just to help you with your predictions if we exclude the launch period (first ten weeks of sales), GT5 sold an average of 22k/week up to this date. This number will obviously decrease in the upcoming years...
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atma998 posted 29/10/2011, 02:46
@CGI and Don: You guys don't seem to understand how a time frame comparison works. You cannot compare a game released before holidays with one release after and then compare where they stand 1 year after launch, it just doesnt make sense. In January, GT5 will have benefit from 2 holidays vs. only one for GT4. Anyway since you don't understand it let's put this aside and let's just take a look at what GT5 needs to sell to reach 10M. Like I said before, how much do you think it will sell for 2012-2013-2014 excluding heavy bundling scenario? Do the math and then explain to me how is it possible to reach 10M LTD. I'm very curious to hear your predictions! :D
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Marks posted 29/10/2011, 02:06
Wow nm that 750k forza figure is after 2 weeks. Only did 550k first week.
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Marks posted 29/10/2011, 02:05
Wow GT5 killed Forza 4 in sales. 2.3 million first week vs 750k first week.
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DonFerrari posted 28/10/2011, 11:55
@atma998: Do you still ignore when he says it is selling about the same week on week on the same timeframe, and as where discussed before GT4 already had its Holliday this time around (in number of weeks) after all the year have 52 weeks and this was 48... what was your point again?
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atma998 posted 27/10/2011, 10:24
@CGI I'm still waiting for your prediction. Also when talking about ignored fact did you mean the fact that GT5 was released before the holidays while GT4 wasnt and then comparing the sales on the same ''time frame''? lol
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ethomaz posted 27/10/2011, 08:25
More zero sales this week... sorry PD :(
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Munkeh111 posted 27/10/2011, 09:36
Still selling quite nicely, though I doubt it will ever reach 10m
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shanbcn posted 27/10/2011, 02:10
When will PD update shipment figures? They used to update them after 3 months.
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atma998 posted 26/10/2011, 10:28
...unless heavy bundling which is out of the question at the moment obviously. Now where are your predictions guys?
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atma998 posted 26/10/2011, 10:25
A logical explanation? Dude, I already gave you tons of logical explanations. But just look at the numbers, this game is currently selling what? 20k/week. Even if it can sell a couple of weeks over 100k during the holidays and manage to reach 7.5M on January 1st 2012, how do you think it will sell for 2012, 2013 and 2014? No more than 1.5 million for these three years seems reasonable to believe which makes 9 million LTD. But imo it will probably be less than that like 8-8.5M LTD seems even more reasonable.
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gipsy_jack posted 26/10/2011, 05:24
I thonk we'lll have a better idee after christmas
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ethomaz posted 26/10/2011, 04:28
This game is selling nothing
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DonFerrari posted 25/10/2011, 11:03
never more than 6,5M... Maybe v2 in the platinum edition can even boost more sales.
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Donutsticks posted 25/10/2011, 06:46
@atma: so what do you think gt5 will sell in it's lifetime?
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atma998 posted 25/10/2011, 03:50
Yeah really, there is no chance this game can reach 10 million now. Why can't we just get real?
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The_Joker_Product posted 23/10/2011, 07:11
Oh no itll never sell million, did too poorly in US and Japan for that.
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Turkish posted 23/10/2011, 09:57
Haters be hatin, this game will sell 10 million no matter what!
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DonFerrari posted 23/10/2011, 03:25
If install base is a problem then GT5 feat is even more important to consider when GT6 launch latter or in a new console if Sony manages to get first again
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postofficebuddy posted 22/10/2011, 04:16
In aligned launches GT4 has already had its first holiday (In Europe and NA, not in Japan though), and as CGI points out GT5 is still comfortably ahead of GT4. There's pretty much no way this isn't getting to 10 million. I'd even wager a bet that it could beat GT3 if Sony bundled it somewhat heavily.
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abhiram_33 posted 22/10/2011, 01:14
It won't sell more than GT4 cause the PS3 install base is pretty low compared to the PS2
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atma998 posted 21/10/2011, 10:09
Guys, stop comparing GT4 to GT5 time frame. GT5 was released BEFORE the holidays while GT4 wasnt. It's totally useless (or dishonest) to use this argument now.
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chris212223 posted 21/10/2011, 05:52
And also guys it's pretty clear that this game is undertracked since PD said they shipped 6.37 mil by the end of 2010 so for all we know GT5 could be at 7.5 or even 8 mil sold through.
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ethomaz posted 21/10/2011, 03:33
Michael-5 please do more research before post
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Michael-5 posted 21/10/2011, 01:10
This game really hasn't sold a lot in 2011. GT4 must have regained it's lead over GT5 by now. Don't think this game will break 10 million like many thought, without bundling that is.
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rpgmaniac posted 20/10/2011, 05:25
Sales will reach or pass the 8 million mark till the end of year imo, and in the next years the sales will continue to increase also to reach I dont know where.. :P
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ethomaz posted 18/10/2011, 04:47
DLC delayed in NA... bad news.
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Mordred11 posted 17/10/2011, 07:56
come on baby!
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postofficebuddy posted 13/10/2011, 02:28
@Puggsly This will easily cross 7 million this year even without bundling. It's already sold 1.3 million so far this year outside the holidays. Even without bundling another million is pretty much guaranteed, and with moderate bundling is likely to exceed 8 million by the end of the year.
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Feniris posted 12/10/2011, 03:59
This should evetnually get to around 8.5mil. I don't think if will be much more than that.
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Mr Puggsly posted 12/10/2011, 04:10
@ postofficebuddy - Even if it hits 7 million by years end, that next 3 million could take several years. Gonna need heavy bundling to get there anytime in the near future.
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Fanta posted 11/10/2011, 04:11
Stop spamming the chat fanboy.
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ethomaz posted 11/10/2011, 03:19
DLC Details: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=135341
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ethomaz posted 11/10/2011, 03:19
Best intro ever made: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=135340
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ethomaz posted 11/10/2011, 03:19
Spec 2.0 live: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=135322
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postofficebuddy posted 11/10/2011, 05:43
I can hardly wait till this hits 10 million and proves all the haters wrong. Could even happen by the end of 2012 if Sony bundle it somewhat heavily this holiday. I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up shipping over 12 million lifetime.
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bugrimmar posted 10/10/2011, 07:31
it's still tracking higher than gt4 week on week. on track for that ten million no problem.
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bugrimmar posted 10/10/2011, 07:31
it's still tracking higher than gt4 week on week. on track for that ten million no problem.
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bugrimmar posted 10/10/2011, 07:31
it's still tracking higher than gt4 week on week. on track for that ten million no problem.
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Mordred11 posted 09/10/2011, 10:58
let's see some higher sales!
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ethomaz posted 06/10/2011, 01:53
Win a super cara: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=135124
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GamerCHICK posted 06/10/2011, 12:40
there we go, now gt 1,2,3,4 and 5 are in the top 10 best selling racing games of all time for all systems :)
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DonFerrari posted 05/10/2011, 10:34
Let's see a nice holiday with Spec 2.0, price cut and they could release a Platinum version already with spec 2.0 and use the price cut to better enhance it.
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ethomaz posted 05/10/2011, 06:07
Price Droped to $40 in US.
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ethomaz posted 05/10/2011, 04:08
Spec 2.0/DLC http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=135083 haters gonna hate.
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Donutsticks posted 05/10/2011, 03:22
they should drop its price when forza 4 comes out.
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Carl posted 05/10/2011, 02:21
atma you spend more time on here than anywhere else on VGC
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atma998 posted 04/10/2011, 10:06
Well that makes a lot of ''if''...
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krazyb posted 03/10/2011, 04:19
platnium version, bundling,and if there is a spec2/goty edition shoud get it to 10 mil
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atma998 posted 01/10/2011, 01:15
Well if it can manage to sell an average of 18k a week, maybe the game will reach 10M before 2016. :P
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MrMofongo624 posted 30/09/2011, 08:45
this is the best racing game ever!
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DonFerrari posted 30/09/2011, 05:28
Another TOP 40 week... This game do some unexpected boosts
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Rockyb posted 28/09/2011, 05:26
mario kart looool
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gustave154 posted 27/09/2011, 09:16
wow top 10 racing games are Kart games and Gran Turismo =)
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fauzman posted 23/09/2011, 11:40
This game is KING in EMEAA. Keep mowing down the comp.
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DonFerrari posted 23/09/2011, 10:19
fw 1.13 online
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DonFerrari posted 23/09/2011, 12:32
TOP 40 again and almost 20k of sales... It's a long endurance race and you are conquering it bit by bit
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DonFerrari posted 20/09/2011, 11:45
@MonstaMack: the best part is EA shit talking GT5 and saying they would beat it up with Shift, they didn't even outsold Prologue and I don't think any NFS will do it this generation
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MonstaMack posted 20/09/2011, 07:56
With prologue and this combined it will outsell GT4 in the next few weeks!
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DonFerrari posted 20/09/2011, 03:29
14k this week in EMEAA, maybe it will enter TOP40 WW again. I don't see why it wouldn't achieve 7M maybe even 7,5M if Holidays are gracefull enough.
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reviniente posted 17/09/2011, 11:13
@snakenobi - No.
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DonFerrari posted 16/09/2011, 06:55
One more week to debunkle the sole NFS in top 10 list.... Would love to see it regain america and japan market also.
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Alby_da_Wolf posted 16/09/2011, 05:13
Sony should market it a little better in America and a lot better in Japan...
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ethomaz posted 16/09/2011, 02:22
More 22k this week... next week I expect a little more..
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snakenobi posted 16/09/2011, 01:19
should be around 9m after holiday bundle sales
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DonFerrari posted 16/09/2011, 12:21
@Rainbird: And As I see you are summing BO in Xbox 360 and PS3 together to compete with GT5, why not sum GT5Prologue since is the same game, or put Forza3 or 4 when it launches to do a same userbase?
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VXIII posted 13/09/2011, 03:28
Haha, Thanks Mordred11 xD
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Mordred11 posted 13/09/2011, 09:38
whoever made the banner.good job
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Rainbird posted 11/09/2011, 09:57
Also, "which is when these claims were made", aye? You made the claim two days ago, hence why I posted. Anyway, I agree, I'm sure we could keep bickering here.
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Rainbird posted 11/09/2011, 09:54
@ CGI: No, you're getting confused here. ;) We're discussing franchises here, and as I see it, that means the newest game in a series represents the franchise. Now, CoD games might be frontloaded and Black Ops may have sold "faster" than GT5, but so far this year, GT5 and BO have been selling neck and neck in EMEAA. So when BO is 500k units ahead in total sales, I can't see how GT is the bigger franchise. True, BO will fade away once MW3 releases, but there are no signs that MW3 will sell less than BO, so by the time GT5 has overtaken BO, MW3 might very well have done the same. My evidence to support this is as good as your evidence and your case, but right now the numbers are clear. Black Ops is more popular than Gran Turismo 5 and MW3 will be even more popular (tracking about 50% higher in the american pre-orders compared to Black Ops a year ago).
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Rainbird posted 11/09/2011, 08:04
Oops, I meant of course that if GT is the bigger franchise, then why has Black Ops outsold GT5!
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Rainbird posted 11/09/2011, 07:13
I think you're confusing yourself. You said "CoD is selling more, but as a franchise, GT is bigger than CoD in EMEAA." If GT is the bigger franchise (looking strictly at the PS3), then why has Black Ops outsold it? They've had about the same time on the market, so if GT is bigger, it should do better. I know GT5 will beat BO, that's obvious of course, but CoD is a moving target. Once MW3 releases, then that's the one to beat. Let's say that in one year, GT5 has sold an extra million copies in EMEAA, putting it at a little over 5m units. Black Ops outsold MW2 (on PS3) by about 21% (at the 42 weeks mark), and if MW3 follows that trend, it will have sold about 5.4m copies on the PS3 in EMEAA this time next year. The future is of course purely speculation, but right now CoD is in fact the bigger franchise (on PS3).
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Rainbird posted 11/09/2011, 12:46
That's still lifetime sales for GT4 by the way, only 42 weeks for MW2.
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Rainbird posted 11/09/2011, 12:40
@ CGI: Oh, and to remove the install base advantage from CoD, I made the same calculations for MW2 (EMEAA, PS360, 42 weeks on the market), and it has outsold GT4 by 850k units, but it launched on a substantially smaller install base (about 8.5m smaller). So yeah.
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Rainbird posted 11/09/2011, 12:37
Holy crap that was a long post xD
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Rainbird posted 11/09/2011, 12:37
@ CGI: Of course BO will not keep selling like this, it will be replaced, something GT5 won't have to deal with. Now, if we're going to talk growth, I will say this: Based purely on EMEAA PS360 numbers, Black Ops has outsold MW2 with 12% after 42 weeks each (BO's current time on the market), and there's no reason to believe MW3 won't do better than BO. Again based purely on PS360 numbers, Black Ops has currently sold 8,24 million copies in EMEAA, which is 1,74 million copies ahead of GT4. And that's where GT4 is now, six and a half years after it launched. Granted, GT4 launched on a smaller install base in EMEAA (about 4.5m smaller), but that's the only advantage BO had. And that's before we even take the Wii and PC into account, so CoD is definitely bigger than GT in EMEAA.
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ethomaz posted 11/09/2011, 02:40
Another boost 13,949... next week Platinum... GO GO GT5.
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atma998 posted 10/09/2011, 07:43
@Ethomaz Comparison by time frame doesnt means anything since GT5 was released during the holidays while GT4 wasnt and you know it. And it still selling really low numbers in US weeks after weeks.
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VXIII posted 10/09/2011, 07:12
:/
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VXIII posted 10/09/2011, 07:11
The Platinum is out of stock on Amazon.uk , it came yesterday The Platinum is out of stock on Amazon.uk , it came yesterday 9th Sep, should see a nice boost in sales when the next week data is here
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ethomaz posted 10/09/2011, 05:21
Just to explain better... GT5 is selling better than GT4 in Americas in the first 9 months (1 end of year holidays for both... but GT5 just get one part).
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ethomaz posted 10/09/2011, 05:18
@atma998 GT5 is not the worst selling GT in US by time frame... it's over GT4 for example... What are you talking about?
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atma998 posted 09/09/2011, 10:56
@Ethomaz, the worst selling GT in US did 2.85M. Look at the sales, it not doing fine at all. I know that you love GT and all but you have to admit it's not doing as good as previous GT titles did in the past.
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ethomaz posted 09/09/2011, 04:57
The @CGI point was never a GT sold more than 2.5m in US without bundles... GT5 is done fine in US.
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Rainbird posted 09/09/2011, 02:01
@ CGI: Actually in EMEAA, Black Ops (PS3) is currently outselling GT5 on a weekly basis (albeit by a small margin), and is about half a million ahead in sales. It's another story in Japan of course, but for EMEAA, CoD is in fact bigger than GT.
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SS4Goku posted 09/09/2011, 03:18
lol i still remember when someone on here told me that GT was as big as COD, this game flopped in US.
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Riku148 posted 06/09/2011, 06:17
The best driving game so far
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ethomaz posted 06/09/2011, 05:14
GT5 v1.12 update out three days ago.
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Libi posted 06/09/2011, 01:36
In Portugal 29.99€. Best game i have
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DonFerrari posted 02/09/2011, 11:22
@loy310: this week update have a kind of FREE DLC
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DonFerrari posted 02/09/2011, 11:17
3 more weeks or less to enter TOP 10
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ethomaz posted 29/08/2011, 07:55
GT5 v1.11 update coming today.
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loy310 posted 27/08/2011, 05:30
Sony need to add some DLc to thos game, being that it will be the only GT game for PS3. I would pay $60 for DLC if they released something good.
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ethomaz posted 27/08/2011, 04:41
@CGI I want just GT5 for PS3... definitive with DLCs and updates.
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maverick40 posted 27/08/2011, 03:16
just got this game for 22 euros new. What a game!!
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ethomaz posted 24/08/2011, 03:55
PD almost confired GT6 just for PS4... GT5 is the definitive game for PS3.
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ethomaz posted 24/08/2011, 01:59
September in EU.
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dsage01 posted 24/08/2011, 01:29
When does this game go platinum again?
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dsage01 posted 24/08/2011, 01:28
I expect big sales when this game goes platnium
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PureDante posted 22/08/2011, 08:49
Only 80k sales left until its in the top 10 racing list all time :D
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ethomaz posted 22/08/2011, 04:57
@DonFerrari I guess after this week it will enter in TOP40 because the PS3 sales have increased after the price cut... I expect numbers near 20k.
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DonFerrari posted 22/08/2011, 04:49
@ethomaz: just a little more to enter top40
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MrMofongo624 posted 22/08/2011, 10:12
The person who knows the lifespan of the Ps3 knows if will reach 10million. Honestly I dont think it will, maybe 9. But amazing game!
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chris212223 posted 21/08/2011, 04:40
Yeah i know -_- thats what everyone has been waiting for
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dsage01 posted 20/08/2011, 02:59
who isn't. But PD isn't putting there numbers on
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chris212223 posted 19/08/2011, 11:15
Im thinking its undertacked still...
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dsage01 posted 19/08/2011, 09:15
This can top hopefully more than 7 million by year's end!
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ethomaz posted 19/08/2011, 05:13
13,064 this week
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Heavenly_King posted 19/08/2011, 05:21
LTD 10M :D
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DonFerrari posted 18/08/2011, 03:27
@snakenobi: I don't think 9M is possible this year end, 8M at most would be guess... unless bundled it could go to 8,5~9M
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bleach2091 posted 18/08/2011, 10:30
latest game trailers http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePietro1010?feature=mhee
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ruimartiniman posted 18/08/2011, 02:24
@ethomaz maybe more than 20k, coming to platinum 9 September
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snakenobi posted 17/08/2011, 11:28
will easily top 9m by or around new year
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ethomaz posted 17/08/2011, 05:00
@atma998 if you check my tables you can see the GT5 was increasing... I will not surprised if it top 20k/week soon.
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ethomaz posted 17/08/2011, 04:58
@atma998 last two weeks togheter sold a little over 28k... seems more like 14k/week... without japan it sold 12,422 already this week.
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atma998 posted 17/08/2011, 01:44
Still selling near 10k/week...
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GamerCHICK posted 16/08/2011, 10:08
its about to past NFS underground for 10th place in world wide top racing games
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DonFerrari posted 13/08/2011, 01:32
@elmerFudd5: By one copy, be part of the team and help the sales to keep going
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elmerFudd5 posted 12/08/2011, 09:34
woh ive never been a fan of racing games but i heard a lot of good things about this game an sales are reeal good
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chris212223 posted 12/08/2011, 04:57
@Rafux: Gamestop says its $40 =P
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Rafux posted 11/08/2011, 09:15
Still selling at 60$ everywhere
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DonFerrari posted 08/08/2011, 01:47
@ethomaz: I know well what you are talking... but releasing a 3rd 5M+ seller is better than patch it more and more to get to 8M~10M, from a bussiness perspective at least... But that game would release 2014 (not earlier than 2013)... @GT6 in PSV, nope... maybe a GT2 Portable... @CGI-Quality: I agree with you, to early for a new GT6 and 3,6M more is still a possibility.
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dsage01 posted 06/08/2011, 02:46
Slight increase in EMEAA this week
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Ultr posted 06/08/2011, 12:58
I think they said there are also 4 gig cartridges, so, the game could come with 2 4gig carts :D maybe that would be enough
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italo244 posted 06/08/2011, 12:16
Maybe Gran Turismo 6 can be released for PSV, and you can play online PS3 x PSV. But hell no, im thinking too high. No way that Gran Turismo 6 will be released in a 2gb cartdrige.
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ethomaz posted 05/08/2011, 03:02
@DonFerrari you are missing one thing... in PS1/PS2 gen the patches didn't exists. GT5 could be improved even without GT6. GT6 just for PS4... I believe..
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Heavenly_King posted 05/08/2011, 10:08
It is funny how the prologue sold so much :D. This game will eventually sell 10M
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DonFerrari posted 04/08/2011, 12:33
@ethomaz: I disagree, PS1 and PS2 had 2 GT, one that implemented the concept and revolutioned the game and other that refined it... as GT5 still have a lot of room for improvement inside PS3 I could see a GT5 in 2012, even more if PS4 just launch by 2014. But I won't deny that a launch release of GT6 on PS4 would be a alternative
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ethomaz posted 04/08/2011, 05:25
@XanderZane there are no plan to GT5... sorry... the plan is weekly updates, patchs and DLC for GT5... I guess GT6 is just for PS4.
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XanderZane posted 03/08/2011, 10:13
It's still not going to reach 10 million by 2013. It's not even going to do 1 million in 2012, especially if GT6 is released next year.
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DonFerrari posted 29/07/2011, 07:13
For the sake of my prediction I'll consider the 31st day of the month sale to complete 4M in EMEAA and 6,4M WW
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ethomaz posted 29/07/2011, 03:22
13,012 exactly
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dsage01 posted 29/07/2011, 03:02
only about 12-13 k this week. Hope it boosts up back top the top 30 next week!
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DonFerrari posted 27/07/2011, 05:58
still on track to pass 4M in EMEAA by the end of the month and 6,5M by september. 7,5M is feasible for the holidays.
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Ldn.se posted 27/07/2011, 01:50
My friend just bought a PS3 and this was the first game he got for it!
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dsage01 posted 25/07/2011, 05:53
Back in the top 40 this week!
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ethomaz posted 25/07/2011, 02:12
@dsage01Yeah, it outsold Reach.
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ethomaz posted 25/07/2011, 02:12
Narrowly missed the TOP30 this week. AMAZING.
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dsage01 posted 24/07/2011, 04:10
When will the japense numbers arrive!
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dsage01 posted 24/07/2011, 04:10
I think it outsold Halo Reach this week
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M.U.G.E.N posted 22/07/2011, 10:56
the day 17k a week in summer were not good legs for a game >_> okieeee then
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atma998 posted 22/07/2011, 10:22
@DonFerrari I didnt know this page was only for cheering...sorry.
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dsage01 posted 22/07/2011, 08:34
atma998 dude we all thought this game would be bundled like crazy by now but it seems like we were wrong. BTW this is outselling Reach and Black Ops without the mass bundling those two game have. As soon as this game gets bundled 10 milliion is guranteed
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DonFerrari posted 22/07/2011, 12:24
@atma998: and if you want to downplay a game others are enjoying keep it to yourself or go to a game you like and praise it...
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atma998 posted 22/07/2011, 02:03
It's amazing to see you guys are impressed by a 17k week. Who would have thought this a couple weeks before GT5 launch with all the 10M+ thread? If you guys absolutely want to praise a PS3 game for its legs you still have God of War 3 that is not doing so bad for a lesser franchise.
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ethomaz posted 22/07/2011, 01:21
@DonFerrari a 17k week could put GT5 in TOP40 WW again... this week it sold more than last week.
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DonFerrari posted 21/07/2011, 05:16
@ethomaz... i think it's a 17k week ... almost at 4M in EMEAA two more weeks maybe... and EMEAA software were weak this week, with 11,7k it almost hit top 10.
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ethomaz posted 21/07/2011, 04:04
16,150 (NA: 4,372 + EMEAA: 11,778 + JP: ?)
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pslee posted 21/07/2011, 03:36
the greatest hit will release in europe in 2-3 month. there will be a huge boost in sale end of this year. I think it will reach 7.5million end of the year.
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ethomaz posted 21/07/2011, 03:22
GT5 boosted 21% in EMEAA this week.
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italo244 posted 21/07/2011, 02:11
lol, i still think it will. Price cut + new bundle and this will fly like a rocket!
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scabab07 posted 21/07/2011, 12:28
I knew it, i said before it came out the game wouldnt sell close to 10 mil and it could only hope for about 7-8 mil. Sales pretty much stopped after week 6. Its not selling 10 million.
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Rockyb posted 21/07/2011, 03:21
it still hasnt sold the 1st shipment of december 2010 ....... lol after almost 8 months
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DonFerrari posted 20/07/2011, 10:58
@Dgc1808 unless you think 20k a week not moving (1,6Million dollars of sales with probably near to 500k profit weekly) is not move them you are crazy. And about Move, it use eyetoy to track head movement, altough you can't use the Move controler and navigator to control the car yet.
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ethomaz posted 19/07/2011, 04:17
@italo244 premium cars, tracks, new modes, etc... something huge because GT5 is update every week with new events and stuffs.
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Dgc1808 posted 19/07/2011, 12:49
Do these sales even move?
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dsage01 posted 19/07/2011, 02:57
This still looks undertrakced! But still selling good. It will need serious legs to outsell GTA 4 though
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Heavenly_King posted 16/07/2011, 07:05
THIS IS MADNESS!!! lol :D
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small44 posted 15/07/2011, 07:23
The platinum version of gran turismo will out in october in europe.
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italo244 posted 15/07/2011, 06:34
what kind of DLC? Like... more premium cars?
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ethomaz posted 12/07/2011, 04:49
I guess this holidays GT5 will receive the first DLC pack putting the sales on sky again... quote me later.
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DonFerrari posted 11/07/2011, 09:22
In target to pass 4M in EMEAA before August.
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Donutsticks posted 11/07/2011, 06:07
@wbalmant, I think your goofy. This game is selling great! 6.33million copies sold and its still a full priced title! Thats outstanding!! It took 200 weeks for gt4 to sell 10 million. When this game goes down in price it will get a significant boost. When the holidays come it will get a significant boost that should put it over 7 million. If this game is bundled then who knows how many copies can be sold! The sky is the limit there! If theres one thing that can keep gt5 from reaching 10 million it will be because gt6 is coming out! And if it doesn't reach 10 million then who cares because the game is already a huge success!
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wbalmant posted 10/07/2011, 07:45
The game isback to the grave. GT5 R.I.P.
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Iveyboi posted 08/07/2011, 07:11
This game more than brokeve. 6.24M at full price x $70 = $436.8M. This will be divided up amongst Sony, PD, and stores but still very successful at full price.
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DonFerrari posted 08/07/2011, 05:19
2k to chart in TOP 40... I still hope that during holliday it can hit somewhere between 7~7.5M
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ethomaz posted 08/07/2011, 03:50
17,054 to be exactly
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DonFerrari posted 08/07/2011, 02:57
Another sub 20k week in WW? It's time to launch some DLC pack for free with more tracks, races (that will help people get to LVL40 without repeting the same championships a dozen times) and the Car models they promissed.
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dsage01 posted 08/07/2011, 02:29
Sales are slowing down in EMEAA. But it's not just GT5. It's the whole software.
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DonFerrari posted 05/07/2011, 03:21
@dsage01: the problem may be outselling MW3 i think
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dsage01 posted 05/07/2011, 02:30
Black Ops only has a 12 month lifeline. GT5 will keep selling. At the end of the day GT5 will outsell Black Ops in EMMEA
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jester2358 posted 04/07/2011, 08:25
so its just sold through its december 31 2010 shipment?(according to pd website) this is definitly undertracked there is no way the game hasn't had multiple shipment since then.
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mysticwolf posted 03/07/2011, 07:41
this is like real life or something
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pslee posted 01/07/2011, 06:49
second best selling game in EMEAA after passing MW2. Black Ops selling too well for GT5 to take over #1 spot
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DonFerrari posted 01/07/2011, 06:07
@Gustave154: Will be funny to see the TOP 10 of racing having just GTs and MKs no doubt kings in each sub-genre (simulation and kart).
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Alby_da_Wolf posted 27/06/2011, 11:25
Unless shipments during Q1 2011 turn out to be horribly low, the shipment as of 31 Dec 2010 should be considered sold, at latest, by 31 Mar 2011, so we could see a minimum adjustment up by 260k.
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ethomaz posted 26/06/2011, 04:06
21,210 this week.
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dsage01 posted 25/06/2011, 04:02
If this gets big holiday sales it looks like 10 million is possible
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gustave154 posted 24/06/2011, 06:34
the wait is agonizing when will it beat NFS Underground.. xD
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ethomaz posted 24/06/2011, 03:14
Damit I wrote wheel wrong...
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ethomaz posted 24/06/2011, 03:14
@Rockyb It's not impossible without a whell but the whell make the thing more easy... the time speeded to Platinum is more difficult to me.
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Rockyb posted 24/06/2011, 02:38
this is the only game i cant get the platinum trophy, too dificult get gold on everything , specially the vettel events . i heard its almost impossible without a wheel
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ethomaz posted 24/06/2011, 01:24
Haters will have a heart attack now
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mysticwolf posted 23/06/2011, 04:14
its so expensive! but i want it so bad
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mysticwolf posted 21/06/2011, 05:12
i want this
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DonFerrari posted 20/06/2011, 04:03
@ethomaz count with me.
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ethomaz posted 20/06/2011, 12:52
I want to write a review for GT5 but I do not think I know enough English to do this: (
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ethomaz posted 18/06/2011, 07:43
Possibile DLC coming: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=130620
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TurismoT posted 17/06/2011, 11:01
this game is still entering the top 40 6 months after its release. I thought only cod and wii games did this. good job
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enditall727 posted 17/06/2011, 11:00
i still think this game will be the 5th 10 million seller on ps3
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Pjams posted 17/06/2011, 08:20
I really need to buy this game again
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Turkish posted 17/06/2011, 10:04
This game will hit 10 million definetly
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ethomaz posted 13/06/2011, 10:34
@DonFerrari I guess that because the game is the only with official sales data released time to time.
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DonFerrari posted 13/06/2011, 01:04
it's the king of the undertracking
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wbalmant posted 12/06/2011, 12:33
Top 40 again very good. What happened? Cut price? Strange, the game is out of top 40 by 10 weeks. Now 3 weeks in top 40. Maybe the game is undertraked.
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Groundking posted 11/06/2011, 11:38
I like how sales are increasing going into the slow season XD Anyway Legs on this are awesome :)
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krazyb posted 11/06/2011, 12:01
23k again that is awesome and still on full price,only this week some retailers are slightly dropping the price,this series is the king of driving games, haters and competitors who slagged of this game you fail.
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ethomaz posted 10/06/2011, 03:29
HO HO HO 23k again.
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dsage01 posted 10/06/2011, 01:32
Great legs!
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sbvgc2049 posted 09/06/2011, 08:48
For bitter minders,it's never about quality,it's all about hatred toward good things in their minds,you never see them to comment on those really shitty games.
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ethomaz posted 08/06/2011, 09:07
GT5 v1.10 out now.
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ethomaz posted 05/06/2011, 05:27
C'mon PD update GT5 numbers.
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wbalmant posted 04/06/2011, 02:53
Lets see more weeks. But the is now on top 40, and the sales are better then halo reach. Lets wait and see.
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jester2358 posted 03/06/2011, 08:13
weak data? as far as i can see he is just stating the weekly sales numbers....adjustments will come once PD update their website, currently is states 6.37 shipped as of december 2010. so its likely undertracked a bit.
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DonFerrari posted 03/06/2011, 07:42
@ethomaz: Post the link to your all weak data... when will the adjustments come?
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ethomaz posted 03/06/2011, 05:06
23k again... AMAZING.
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jester2358 posted 03/06/2011, 03:52
@atma998 crazy and stupid predictions are made about every game doesnt mean those predictions become a rule of sorts. I believe this will hit 10 million with about 1.5-2.0 in bundled sales. and i was in the sales prediction threads in fact i correctly guessed the opening week(within 150k) and my estimate of lifetime sales was 9.5 million, i have moved that to 10 recently for a few reasons.
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ethomaz posted 03/06/2011, 02:29
15k without Americas this week
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ethomaz posted 03/06/2011, 02:04
More 2 months to GT5 crossed 4 million in EMEAA.
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Darkshao posted 03/06/2011, 01:13
call of
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DonFerrari posted 03/06/2011, 12:39
@atma998: Some users saying it will reach 10M without bundles (what isn't impossible, just harder) don't make it a rule you know??? But with 20k sales a week i don't see Sony bundling it before Holiday (maybe just in 2012) because they are still geting nice profit (about 300k dollars everyweek) to just put on a bundle for 0 profit on software and push more hardware with a low margin
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ethomaz posted 02/06/2011, 02:50
@All it will.
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atma998 posted 02/06/2011, 02:33
@jester2358 Obviously you did not participate to the numerous ''GT5 will reach 10M'' threads...
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ethomaz posted 01/06/2011, 05:46
More amazing sales coming this week? I think so.
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Shipping Total

11,950,000 Units
As of: September 30th, 2017

Opinion (1368)

atma998 posted 02/04/2021, 03:29
10 years later, I'm coming here and yup, I was right when I was saying the franchise was on a downward trend.

GT6 did 5.22M and GTS did an awful 3.77M.
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VXIII posted 17/12/2015, 06:31
True. What a monster. I predicted 10.5M back in days. GT5 pretty much exceeded everyone's expectations at this point.
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VXIII posted 16/12/2015, 06:54
"GT5 total just shy of 12 million units (11.94). This pushes the 2010 title into second place within the franchise, second only to GT3’s massive 14.89 million"

https://www.gtplanet.net/gt6-sales-total-4-71-million-franchise-over-76-million-units/
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ethomaz posted 07/01/2015, 06:51
The last shipped data is 10.66m as of Mar 2013. Yeap I believe the shipment is at least close to 12 million right now.

If VGC is undertracking it then it is really a little amount... 11 million max like CGI said.
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Kerotan posted 07/01/2015, 03:40
@CGI GT5 sold pretty well the prologue sales for it were excellent too. Can you PM me the info regarding why you think Polyphony will update their numbers soon?
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atma998 posted 06/01/2015, 06:02
Thanks
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